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Poetic Stanziel
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.03 19:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Oh, andGǪ Issler Dainze wrote:I've been asking for progressively stronger gate guns in low sec for years. This is a great change that is long overdue! GǪgood, then you can explain why this would in any way be a good change. So that carebears can travel safely from Hek to Jita in 7 jumps, rather than 24 jumps.
The more Issler can carebear up the game, the happier she is.
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Poetic Stanziel
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.03 19:17:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:If it really was mostly fleet "A" waits for fleet "B" to come by that would be great. More often than not its lazy fleet "A" sitting on the gate and killing industrials and the odd single ship passing through. For every true "looking for the good fight" I see 10 "woot! ganked your hauler, now to swim in your tears" encounters. GET OFF THE CSM PLEASE!!
Industrialists should no longer be targets? We'll **** over all of FW combat, so that a few stupid haulers and industrialists can be saved? What the hell is wrong with you, Issler?
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Poetic Stanziel
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Posted - 2012.08.03 19:20:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:So there are going to be all manner of reasons being added to low sec to get folks into the system. Like new mining options, like new FW activities, like who knows what since CCP seems to want to get folks to try out the more dangerous side of Eve. How is it more dangerous, when you're supporting making it far less dangerous?
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Poetic Stanziel
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Posted - 2012.08.03 19:27:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:So if you don't like this idea, how do you think you get more folks into low sec? Hint, "keeping roaming pirate like PvP fights" like they happen today isn't the answer. We can see the results of that experience. One gate-gun solution does not fit all of lowsec.
You want gate-guns changed, then it should be applied on a system-by-system basis. Areas deep in lowsec, where most FW happens, should be unaffected. CCP can then experiment with the border lowsec systems like Rancer and Amamake. And then move their experiments around as they see fit ... make them story-driven elements if they see fit to do that as well.
Some of the other ideas offered up in this thread are straight up reatded. For instance, the idea that gate gun damage is determined by how many kills happened in a system in an hour ... some FW systems, deep in lowsec, can have 30-50 kills per hour ... why should these people be punished for having a good time? The longer you have fun, the harder we'll make it for you to have fun.
The only thing anyone is taking into consideration with gate guns are Rancer/Amamake type gate camps ... nothing else matters, no other communities or play-types are being considered.
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Poetic Stanziel
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Posted - 2012.08.23 03:18:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Well, depends on the care bear. For example if they can get into low sec they can consider trade at stations, explore the belts, search for anomolies or even consider missions that require low sec. Don't get me wrong, this alone is not the "get the bear into low sec fix" but reducing gate camps will have to part of the solution once other carrots are put into low sec to make risk/reward make sense in this under utilized portion of space.
And to be fair I should have reworded my post. What I was really reacting to was that this issue is not "clear support against and none for", there was support for variations of the idea with players as well as those against. Not acknowledging that some folks liked the idea in general (including a few CSM) was what prompted me to post.
I don't think gate gun changes are as dead as some may have suggested. Also, the real discussion should be broader about how to improve low sec for everyone.
Issler You are clueless.
Gate camps are not prolific. I hop into and out of lowsec many many many times per week and rarely encounter gate camps.
Rancer and Amamake are not indicative of all lowsec/highsec border systems. If you think that, then you're a damned fool.
You might want to start travelling into lowsec, Issler, before spouting off your nonsense.
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